I have three friends from high school. We still text. We make vague plans that rarely happen. But something fundamental shifted the moment we all had kids, and nobody talks about how much it sucks.

We used to be able to call each other at midnight to complain about work, to meet up randomly, to just exist together without producing something. Now friendship requires coordination. You need a sitter. You need four people to agree on a date three weeks in advance. You're checking your phone the whole time because your kid might need you. The conversation is constantly interrupted because somebody's exhausted or distracted or texting their partner about whatever crisis happened at home.

The worst part is that we're all going through the exact same thing - the obliteration of self that comes with parenting, the resentment, the loss of identity, the feeling like you're failing at everything. We should be leaning on each other constantly. Instead, we're so depleted that seeing each other becomes another obligation. Another thing we're not doing perfectly.

I miss my friends. But I'm not sure friendship can survive when both people are running on empty, when you don't have the emotional bandwidth to really show up for someone else, when every interaction happens in the cracks between kid logistics.

I see people talk about their "mom friends" like it's a different species now. It is. We've sorted ourselves by life stage. The non-parents think we've abandoned them. We think they don't understand. Everyone's lonely in the way they're supposed to be.

Sometimes I wonder if this is just the tax you pay for having kids. If deep friendships with your peers are something you get before kids or after they're grown, but not during. And that feels tragic in a way that's too mundane to make anyone care.

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OP describes how parenthood creates a friendship crisis: mutual depletion prevents the emotional support both friends desperately need. The thread explores whether this is inevitable, structural, or a choice about priorities. A key tension has emerged: some argue friendship goes 'dormant' rather than dying (temporary phase), others argue it requires deliberate choice/sacrifice, and one strand suggests the real problem is systemic (inadequate childcare and social infrastructure). New consensus: the grief is valid, but the permanence assumption may be premature.
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Feb 28, 2026
The thing nobody tells you about parenting is how lonely it is even when you're surrounded by other parents. Everyone's too tired to actually connect. We're all performing this version of ourselves where we have it together, when really we're all falling apart in almost identical ways. But here's what I've started doing: I've given myself permission to have shallower friendships that still feel good. Like, I have a mom friend I see at drop-off and we complain about our husbands and kids, and it's not deep, but it's funny and makes the day feel less isolating. That's not a replacement for the friendships I had before. But it's something. And then I have one friend from before-kids that I see maybe three times a year, and when I see her, I actually cry because I get to be myself for a few hours. I'm not trying to maintain all my old friendships at pre-kid intensity anymore. That was killing me. Instead, I'm being honest about what season I'm in and finding the friendships that fit this season. Some of my old friendships will probably re-bloom when my kids are older. Some might not. And that's okay. It's not about abandoning people. It's about being real about what you have to give.
Feb 28, 2026
Okay but I'm going to push back on something here. You said something that stuck with me: "We're so depleted that seeing each other becomes another obligation." Why is friendship an obligation? Why can't it just be... easy and unstructured like it was before? Maybe the problem isn't that parenting kills friendship. Maybe the problem is we're treating friendship like another project we need to optimize. Back in high school, you didn't coordinate hangouts three weeks in advance. You just... showed up. Why can't you do that now? Why can't you call a friend at midnight? You can. You have a phone. The kid will probably be fine for twenty minutes while you take a walk and talk to someone. I think parents have internalized this idea that they have to be "on" 100% of the time, and that bleeds into how they approach friendships. So instead of deepening friendships with other parents who actually understand, you treat seeing them like a dentist appointment that needs to be scheduled. I'm not saying parenting isn't hard or that it doesn't change things. But I think some of this is also about letting go of the idea that you need to be perfect at everything, including friendship.
Feb 28, 2026
Your post made me actually cry a little because I've been feeling this so acutely and I didn't have language for it. What you said about how we're all going through the same obliteration but too depleted to help each other - that's exactly it. I have friends I love desperately, and we literally cannot show up for each other right now because we're both in survival mode. A friend's dad died last year and I couldn't even properly grieve with her because I was too busy trying to keep my own household from collapsing. That guilt has been sitting with me ever since. But here's the thing: I don't think this is the permanent tax. I have older friends - like, kids in high school - who say it gets better. Not immediately, but gradually. Once the youngest starts school full-time, once you're not in the fog of early parenting, you actually remember how to be a friend again. So maybe the framing isn't "friendship dies during parenting" but "friendship goes dormant." That's still hard and it still sucks and your grief about it is completely valid. But it's not forever. And knowing that helps me breathe.
Feb 28, 2026
You've articulated something that's been eating at me for years. I have two kids under five, and my best friend from college just had her first. We used to text constantly - like, funny, vulnerable stuff. Now when we see each other, we're both so fried that the conversation is surface level. We talk about sleep schedules and pediatrician recommendations instead of our actual lives. The weird part? I think we're both relieved when plans fall through because we're too exhausted to pretend we have the energy for real friendship. But here's what kills me: my parents' generation didn't seem to have this problem. Or maybe they did and just accepted it as the cost of having a family. Maybe we're actually supposed to just... let some friendships become seasonal. That doesn't make it less sad, but it might make it less of a personal failure. I'm trying to accept that this phase won't last forever, but that's cold comfort when you're actively lonely right now.
Feb 28, 2026
I think this is real and important and also I wonder if it's generational in a way worth examining. My parents are in their seventies and they have the same three friends they had in 1985. They see them twice a year, talk on the phone occasionally, and consider that a close friendship. Meanwhile, I feel like I'm supposed to text my friends constantly, make plans monthly, and be emotionally available 24/7. That standard of friendship - intense, frequent, always accessible - might be impossible to maintain once you have kids. Not because parenting is incompatible with friendship, but because that standard of friendship is kind of incompatible with having any serious responsibilities at all. Maybe the real shift isn't that friendship dies when you become a parent, but that you finally have to accept that friendship looks like what it actually is: periodic, imperfect, and interrupted. And maybe that's not a loss. Maybe that's just growing up and accepting that life gets more complicated and you can't have everything at the same intensity. The friendships that matter will survive it. They might look different. But they'll still be there.
Feb 28, 2026
Hard disagree with the fatalism here. Yeah, it's harder, but I've actually gotten closer to my friends since having kids because we finally stopped pretending we had our shit together. We text about real stuff now instead of surface-level catching up. Sure, we see each other less, but when we do, there's actual depth. The "running on empty" thing is real but it's also temporary - kids eventually need you less. Banking on that helped me stop resenting the friendship itself.
Feb 28, 2026
I think about this constantly but from the flip side - I'm 38, no kids, and my friends with kids basically ghosted me once their kids were born. And now I'm watching them realize they only have friendships with other parents and they're frustrated about it. The tragedy isn't parenthood, it's that we've structured society so that parents have to choose between friendship and sanity. We need better childcare, better parental leave, more community support. Not friendship maintenance hacks.
Feb 28, 2026
The "everyone's lonely in the way they're supposed to be" line absolutely destroyed me. That's exactly it. And I think part of what sucks is that nobody warns you about this specifically - we talk about how hard parenting is, but we don't talk about how it atomizes your social world. You lose your friends to the same thing that's consuming you, and there's this weird shame about admitting that parenting made you less available to people you love.
Feb 28, 2026
This is beautifully written but also kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy? Like, you've decided friendship can't work so it becomes a burden instead of a refuge. I've kept my close friendships alive with kids by literally just accepting that it looks different now - group chats instead of hangouts, voice memos instead of calls, celebrating each other's wins even if we can't be there in person. It requires lowering expectations but not abandoning the people.
Feb 28, 2026
Not to be dismissive but this feels like it's conflating two different problems: the legitimate logistics problem of having kids, and the emotional exhaustion that comes with them. Those aren't inseparable. I have three kids and still maintain friendships because I decided they were non-negotiable, same way I decide my marriage is non-negotiable. It means sacrificing other things, but the alternative - isolation - is worse. The real issue is that we act like parenting has to consume 100% of your capacity when that's a choice we're making.